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Jen Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 07:45:37 AM
In your opinion, which is more critical to the preservation/restoration of our natural environment: grand-scale projects & campaigns or living "right" & leading by example? Of course, there is effectiveness to both, but which one strikes you as more important

Maybe that's the egg before the chicken (or the other way around) - do you think the planet needs to be "saved" at all, or will homeostasis save it (if not us) in the end

I'm having big thoughts today, can you tell?



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Ellen Posted - Aug 12 2007 : 3:36:52 PM
quote:
Their struggles deserve to be remembered. In doing so, we may develop a more mature view of the challenges confronting us all.



http://www.runet.edu/~wkovarik/envhist/timeline.text.html


link to an environmental human history timeline with biographies
Ellen Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 12:32:54 PM
oops
http://globalpublicmedia.com/barbara_kingsolvers_animal_vegetable_miracle
click from here


Ellen Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 12:31:07 PM
Jo
you have a good answer!

here is a 53minute streaming video of Animal Vegetable Miracle author Barbara Kingsolver and her husband Steven on eating local.

rtsp://media.globalpublicmedia.com/RM/2007/05/Barbara_Kingsolver_20070516.rm
blueberries in alaska Posted - Jun 15 2007 : 01:37:21 AM
not shopping, buying things made locally, eating food grown locally, not buying food that comes in a box. being thoughtful, being kind, not wanting what other people have. living in a meaningful way. jo
Ellen Posted - Jun 08 2007 : 2:54:22 PM
I liked Pollen's book too... and Jane Goodall's Harvest for Hope.

In Animal Vegetable Miracle by Kingsolver:

"Each food item in a typical U.S. meal has traveled an average of 1,500 miles."

"If every U.S. citizen ate just one meal a week (any meal) composed of locally and organically raised meats and produce, we would reduce our country's oil consumption by over 1.1 million barrels of oil every week. That's not gallons, but barrels. Small changes in buying habits can make a big differences." p.5
Jen Posted - Jun 05 2007 : 12:38:36 PM
Hadn't heard of the Progressive Farmer, so I checked out the website & signed on for a free trial of the magazine - looks great!!! I love that they incorporate a section of "Outdoors & Wildlife."

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Joelle Posted - Jun 05 2007 : 10:33:00 AM
Yes, that's right, Joe Salatin! He seems like a very interesting man, who truly practices what he preaches and his farm sounds incredibly successful and WELL thought out. I'll check out his web page. It is ironic that an article in "The Progressive Farmer" would be about a farmer who 'believes in the family farm'... the way it used to be. Retro is Progressive!!
marybeth Posted - Jun 04 2007 : 9:38:09 PM
Hi Joelle, funny you should mention pPolyface Farms in Va. I was just reading an article about the owner Joel Salatin. Amazing. The article is in the magazine 'The Progressive Farmer'. His standard sermon is that farming, pushed to become industrial, has lost its way. That's why farmers have lost touch with their biggest ally: Mother Nature. He believes in the family farm. You can visit him at www.polyfacefarms.com I'm going there now. MB

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Joelle Posted - Jun 04 2007 : 5:17:48 PM
I think you all have great contributions to this topic! I love it. In regards to the last area of conversation: organic/ local, etc... I highly recommend Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollen. It is a fantastic read and a real eye-opener about organic and food. I am only half way done, but already have been influenced by this book when starting my garden. There is a great farm called Polyfarm in Virginia, I believe- if anyone lives near this farm, they should check it out!!

My own personal ideas about how to save the earth- and I think I have a few, is to definitely live as sustainable as possible- always live by example- always be conscious of your actions and their impact. Support sustainable products, ideas and green politics with your money. I do not believe any 'big-business' is environmentally sustainable- anything that is in large production and globally distributed is not sustainable. I believe we MUST teach our children, the youth in their formative years to cherish the planet they live on! If they do not respect it, they will not preserve it. The Vain- cell phone- media minded culture we have created is not sustainable! We need to cultivate an awareness, a respect, and a lifestyle that gives that gratification people are looking for, that does not destroy our planet. Since this is a capitalistic country, I believe a revolution of economic theory must be instilled- the successful companies will be the ones which have environmentally sustainable mission statements and practices- not just the simple 'recycle, keep water clean' policies, but have actually completely revamped their production to produce little to no waste (solid, liquid or gas).
I unfortunately have a dismal outlook for our species if we do not make some major changes soon. I'll step off my soapbox (for now)...
Elizaray Posted - May 09 2007 : 1:30:05 PM
Marybeth- Wow that is scarey! Think about how much fossil fuel was used just to get those carrots all over the place like that!

I can't wait till my garden starts to yield some food. Then I don't have to worry about where it came from- I will know! Things like your carrots really make you appreciate home gardening doesn't it?

Elizaray
marybeth Posted - May 06 2007 : 5:17:29 PM
I buy oeganic as much as I can and generally local. And local and not "organic" is better than not. Yesterday I needed some carrots and there they were. Natures Way "certified organic". I didn't look until I got hime. The package said--Packaged in Ohio--certified in California and--get this--Product of Mexico!. So what did I buy? that's what I get for buying veggies already packaged, I guess. MB

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Jen Posted - May 06 2007 : 07:32:20 AM
Yes, it's certain the muck-a-mucks have an agenda. If some good comes of it, then hooray. I'm suspicious, though, of Nabisco and the other behemoths suddenly selling "organic" versions of their packaged foods. Even if they are somehow using semi-natural methods on a large scale, we can be sure that the large scale will cause problems in itself. Monoculture - or how about gigantoculture - simply can't be sustainable in a truly natural way.
I had something else to say, and it vanished from my brain! Oh well, maybe later...

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marybeth Posted - May 06 2007 : 06:57:17 AM
Sometimes I do feel like that flea on the dog's back. So I guess I can show by example. If I do my part and teach my children and maybe even their friends and they retain something I have taught them and pass that along to their children and friends and on it goes. It is the best I can do at this time. We may be small cogs but we can do our part to keep the whole machine moving smoothly and properly. Everyone is jumping on this "green" bandwagon as if it is something new. Maybe the heads are coming out of the sand afterall or is it just a ploy by the high muck-a-mucks to make us think they are doing their part too????? MB

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Elizaray Posted - May 04 2007 : 2:50:34 PM
Yes, it is so discouraging when people are talking out the sides of their mouths so to speak. Like someone buying a "green" vehicle and then feeding their kids only McDonald's foods or leaving all the lights on in their house or not recycling! Doing one "green" thing doesn't mean that you get a "get out of jail free" card for all the other dangerous and damaging behaviors! ;)


Elizaray
Jen Posted - May 04 2007 : 12:22:58 PM
I agree, Elizaray. I've become a real proponent of leading by example because the choices of 1 person (or family) can have a significant impact, and the benefits of sharing knowledge are far-reaching. My extended family & inlaws have always thought we were a bit eccentric with our organic food preference, but now, after years of teasing & skepticism, I'm starting to find things like organic milk in their refrigerators! That said, we're no gold standard by far, but we're trying to be better all the time, and I think it's important to let others know that (as long as it doesn't become preachy, because who wants to hear a sermon?).
Alas, we are still just a flea on the dog's back - a very small flea. Big efforts by people with big money are invaluable - just as long as they aren't restoring the streambank next to the road & dumping toxic sludge around the bend, know what I mean?


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Elizaray Posted - Apr 26 2007 : 8:56:41 PM
I think it is a combination of big sweeping projects and individual responsibility that will save the planet. We need the big corporations to be more responsible and have more answerability to their emmisions! However each individual needs to have accountability to the damage they do to the planet everyday.

For example an average baby in the first year of life goes through about 2100 diapers. I have heard that each diaper takes about 500 years to decompose and uses about a cup of oil to be made. Most people use disposable diapers without a thought to the damage these do to the environment.

If big corporations worked on being more eco-friendly, and every individual recycled and did their part to plant trees our planet would recover amazingly fast! If only we could get ever single person to be eco-minded!

Elizaray

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