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Jen
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Jennifer
Calico Rock AR
USA
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Posted - Aug 21 2007 :  07:45:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
University of Auckland, NZ - Research suggests that New Caledonian crows are capable of using tools in an indirect way to obtain food, providing evidence the birds have a reasoning ability rivalling that of the great apes.

Read more: http://www.enn.com/animals/article/22068

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blueberries in alaska
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Jo
hillsides of the Chugach AK
USA
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Posted - Aug 21 2007 :  09:48:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit blueberries in alaska's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love crows, have paintings/crow stuff everywhere. I had a pet/feral one as a child. It followed my school bus to school and my mother would have to come retrieve it! There are some wonderful books out about corvids, a good one to look into is "Bird Brains- The Intelligence of Crows, Ravens, Magpies and Jays" It's a lovely book........ I'm off to look at your site! jo

http://www.amazon.com/Bird-Brains-Intelligence-Ravens-Magpies/dp/0871569566/ref=pd_bbs_3/104-6206018-5550368?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187714841&sr=1-3

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marybeth
outstepping

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Marybeth
Washington
USA
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Posted - Aug 22 2007 :  9:49:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You better believe crows are smart. Listen to the different sounds they make. When I worked in the kitchen at school--after school lunches were done and I had to clean up, the crows would appear. One always stands as a guard and passES on information to the others. OnE sound is what we called the 'food chuckle'. Very distinct. We always tossed the crows some food. Usually left over pizza and if it was real hard they would drag it over to a puddle and soften it up before eating it. I had more fun with those crows than I had with the kids..
Jen, by the way i have a real good article about Skagit Valley fresh foods and how they are used in the schools and in local resturants. Now I have to find it again. MB

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Mountain Girl
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JoAnn
Colville WA
USA
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Posted - Aug 23 2007 :  07:42:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I belong to a wildlife rehab group and I am the one who jumps at the chance to raise crows. I have raised at least 4. Techically they are considered a song bird : ) and are illegal to keep. I love them. They are affectionate and yes very smart. JoAnn
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Jen
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Jennifer
Calico Rock AR
USA
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Posted - Aug 23 2007 :  07:53:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Jen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, MB - I'd love to read it. WA is so progressive compared to here, but I have gotten some good feedback on my editorial from a few locals.

I hear ravens are even smarter than crows - any thoughts on that, Jo?

We have a group of crows that frequents an area in our neighbor's cow pasture where there are big, smooth "grinding stones" used by the Indians who lived here (Cherokee? Osage?). So, we call the crows the elders, back to visit their old haunts! Their conversations are fascination, like you said, MB.

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Jen
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Jennifer
Calico Rock AR
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 :  3:38:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
New Study: Monkeys Use “Baby Talk”ť To Interact With Infants

University of Chicago - Female rhesus monkeys use special vocalizations while interacting with infants, the way human adults use motherese, or “baby talk,”ť to engage babies’ attention, new research at the University of Chicago shows.

More: http://www.enn.com/animals/article/22294

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Jen
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Jennifer
Calico Rock AR
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 :  3:40:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In Chimp World, Males Find Older Females Sexier

WASHINGTON — Chimpanzee males prefer to have sex with older females, U.S. researchers found in a study published Monday that shows one of the biggest behavioral differences between humans and our closest biological relatives.

More: http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/5500

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blueberries in alaska
outstepping

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Jo
hillsides of the Chugach AK
USA
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Posted - Aug 25 2007 :  4:36:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit blueberries in alaska's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That last one made me laugh out loud! I read a sweet interview with Jane Goodall about chimps, it's so remarkable how their personalities have the variety you would associate with humans, tender, aggressive, all so very different in their nature.

Crows vs. ravens, hmmm, I certainly love to hear the ravens speak in the woods here. I stopped once with my one lab in the middle of the winter and "talked back and forth with a group of ravens". My lab Bella had such an inquisitive expression, like "gosh, mom, do they understand you?" The ravens don't interact as much as I'd like, I often leave slabs of old frozen fish on the deck hoping to attract them, but usually only attract the old magpies......... My crow was very, very bright, repeated words, and really seemed to enjoy my family.


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marybeth
outstepping

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Marybeth
Washington
USA
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Posted - Aug 29 2007 :  09:21:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jen, as luck would have it---my daughter was helping clean up around here and took all the papers to the recycle--even the ones I was saving to re-read or copy articles and there goes my article for you. BUT I was reading about this lady, Ann Cooper.....
If "School Cafeteria" conjurs memories of steam tables, mystery meat and that smell you haven't eaten in Ann cooper's cafeterias. She's taken on school lunches from East Hampton, NY to Berkeley CA. and won. And in the process, she's promoted that one-two punch of home eating habits and school lunch policy can have a lifelong impact on our kids health.
She has written a book 'Lunch Lessons: changing the way we feed our children'
She goes on to say Home food is only half the battle. School food is the other half, and 'Lunch Lessons' has suggestions for getting involved in local programs and government policy making. Old-fashioned grassroots activisim can make a difference. All schools should develop wellness programs and parents should get involved in the process.
Her web site is:http://www.lunchlessons.org/
Do you think she has the right idea? MB

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Jen
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Jennifer
Calico Rock AR
USA
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Posted - Aug 29 2007 :  12:30:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow - sounds excellent, MB! I'm off to visit her website - thanks for the insights!

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